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#2554 - 07/28/17 05:35 PM Chastity and hormones
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I love the idea of male chastity. The practicalities are often a challenge and on My blog, you will find articles about chastity devices, experiences and so forth. To add to the topic, I asked one of My sissy chastity subs to share his thoughts on hormones and their impact on chastity and vice versa. Here are his fruits of his assignment:

My name is Sissy Jennifer and I am a chastity sub. In my previous life, I did research on hormones—mostly estradiol and testosterone—so I am always talking to Mistress Ayn about the effects of hormones on my chastity. Mistress Ayn asked me to write about hormones and chastity because she thought her blog readers might be interested. Please note that what I wrote below applies to men, as the response of women to the same hormones may be different.

Although a myriad of hormones affects chastity, only three are of real importance. The first hormone is dopamine or the “pleasure” hormone. The intense pleasure associated with orgasm is caused by an extra burst of dopamine released in the brain. High levels of dopamine are associated with well-being and a high libido. After an orgasm, dopamine levels drop dramatically, and it takes awhile for them to come back to normal.

The second hormone is prolactin or the “satiety” hormone. Prolactin levels spike after an orgasm, and, in a sense, counteract high dopamine levels. High prolactin levels are associated with lethargy, depression, and a low libido. Like dopamine, it takes awhile for prolactin levels to decline back to normal.

The release of prolactin isn’t good for relationships, so the body also produces a third hormone, oxytocin or the “cuddle” or “love” hormone. High levels of oxytocin are associated with feelings of attachment and bonding. Like dopamine, oxytocin is released in a burst after orgasm, but it doesn’t persist very long.

How does all of this mesh with a chastity sub? Both dopamine and oxytocin rise during sexual arousal. The chastity device that a chastity sub wears contributes, in a modest way, to his low-level sexual arousal. If a chastity sub is teased, then his dopamine and oxytocin levels increase even more. In a best-case scenario, a chastity sub is kept in a state of relatively high sexual arousal. This state helps explain the captioned image of a man in a chastity cage saying, “I prefer to keep it on” and why the expression “there is no denial without the tease” is true. Neurologically, a chastity sub in a high state of sexual arousal grows to “enjoy” all the benefits of high dopamine and oxytocin, while avoiding the deleterious effects of prolactin.
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#2556 - 07/28/17 09:26 PM Re: Chastity and hormones [Re: Mistress Ayn]
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Hmm have you ever encountered the theories of Marnia Robinson and Gary Wilson? Not that long ago they were all over the web. In a nutshell their creed was "Sex is good but orgasm is EVIL" Their prescription for a happy marriage was to mix cuddling with a lot of karezza (coitus without orgasm for either partner) They talk at great length about dopamine and some of the other neurochemicals like prolactin. Though I always thought that at heart they were dyed in the wool Orientalists (oh, those Great Masters of Wisdom in the East, we must accept their guidance, yada yada) For the record I am not an Orientalist

In their eyes orgasm during coitus was bad unless you were trying to procreate and then it was a necessary evil. But oral sex as worse. Still worse was masturbation. But worst of all was masturbating while watching porn. So they went on frequent AntiPorn tirades

Now interestingly one of their AntiPorn arguments was that it led users into dark alleys, you know like KINKY stuff esp. that unspeakably horrible BDSM stuff. "The horror, the horror"

The irony is their main thesis has a great deal of overlap with long term chastity keyholding which falls in the Stygian realms of the kinky stuff porn might turn you on to. I was sorely tempted to sign on to one of the forums they frequent and tell Marnia she'd make a good keyholder (that comment would probably get deleted soon as they are notorious for deleting negative comments)

I would point out that there is another hormone called vasopressin connected with oxytocin and that in men vasopressin is supposedly "more important" (however that is defined) while oxytocin the romantic hormone is more important (though both hormones are generated in both sexes)


Edited by The Thomas (07/28/17 10:54 PM)

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#2559 - 07/29/17 12:03 PM Re: Chastity and hormones [Re: Mistress Ayn]
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I have not heard of them and am kind of glad I haven't. Bonafide nut jobs, but yes, it does sound like she would make a great key holder - albeit not a fun one.

I love playing with chastity, but the key is on the word "playing". I session with a couple of subs that are in long term chastity (maintained by another Mistress/Wife), but My preference is shorter term play with a bit of mindfuckery thrown in.

Recently I started reading a book called "Vagina" that delves into the female orgasm, among other things. One of the points being made is that female orgasm is necessary for our well being, creativity, confidence, mood stabilization and just about anything else good you can think of. The denial of orgasm (anatomical problems, bad lover, etc.) leads to frustration and the lack of all good things. Masturbation is better than nothing but doesn't compare to orgasm achieved with a lover. This supposedly has to do with the hormones released during foreplay, orgasm and then the cuddling after. Quite frankly I am not sure I buy it, but it is an interesting topic. Unfortunately, I have stalled reading the book because the author insists on giving lengthy credentials of her interviewee's along with unnecessary descriptions of the environment of the interview, etc. *rant* Geez. I hate it when authors try to make what should be a 100 page book into a 250 page book by adding irrelevant material so they can justify charging 29.99. Hey, I would gladly pay $35 for the book if it would just cut to the chase. *end of rant*

Anyway, this got Me thinking (sometimes a dangerous thing) about chastity and the male orgasm - or lack of. Does long term chastity stifle men's creativity and sense of well being? Trying to delve into all the online writing on chastity to find out would give Me brain-freeze, so I probably will never know.

And, thomas, I know chastity is not your thing, but you gave Me a lead in to open this discussion, so I hope others will share their opinion.
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#2563 - 07/29/17 07:56 PM Re: Chastity and hormones [Re: Mistress Ayn]
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There is a very uneven movie called Bliss wherein Terence Stamp plays a sex therapist whose ideas are strangely close to those of the pair I mentioned. There is one incredibly hot R Rated sex scene in that film.

" I know chastity is not your thing"

Not completely true. Chastity usually gets split into long term and short term. As you are well aware the long term version has multiple problems which are reduced but not eliminated if handled in a lifestyle situation.

A really long time ago I did fantasize about being involved with a dominant woman who would control my behavior through a combo of CP and chastity. Carrot and stick so to speak However the tingle was from the idea of being controlled not from the idea of never getting off again. The woman n this fantasy would be a strict but fair disciplinarian who would let me cum if I behaved not an impossible to please martinet

After a while that fantasy faded. More recently another version pops into my head which is more suited to pro domination. In it I wear the device for 4 weeks. The first session is mostly CP then there is a mostly T&D session a week later, then 4 more sessions that are mostly T&D in the remaining 3 weeks. And then it's all over and I go back to other types of sessions Basically it is a way to amplify T&D. I guess one can call it intermediate term chastity.

Now with regards to short term chastity I am going to make a distinction between dungeon ST chastity and public play ST chastity. I have zero interest in the former. Under the right circumstances the latter might prove interesting. There was a NY Domme who was once the second Domme in a pretty good Double Domme session (and you know I'm a tough audience when it comes to doubles). For a while I gave some thought to doing a 1 on 1 with her. Looking on her website I saw that she claimed doing a public session with a very well dressed man in tight chastity was a big turn on for her. That was a bit intriguing but I never contacted her. She has since down her website and I was told (by another) that she only sessions with a select few old timers now.

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#2564 - 07/30/17 10:09 PM Re: Chastity and hormones [Re: Mistress Ayn]
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Hi Mistress,

As You know i've been in long-term chastity for almost 4 years celebrating an anniversary with Mistress Meredith in August. Having gone as long as 1-year without an orgasm there were challenges and rewards. At no point did i feel stifled, less creative, or less worthy. i must admit i was previously addicted to daily orgasms and feeling deflated after each orgasm and less energized. Even in long-term chastity when granted an orgasm i feel that same way, but enjoy the related relaxation.

i learned that a source of my pleasure is pleasing my Mistress. Chastity is important to Her making it important to me. Understanding this source of mutual pleasure drives me to be true -- even when it's difficult.

Submissively, Meredith's rogue pet


Edited by Meredithsrogue (07/30/17 10:10 PM)

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#2569 - 08/02/17 01:13 PM Re: Chastity and hormones [Re: The Thomas]
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My ideal chastity play unfolds over several days. Tomorrow I am doing a session that will end with the sub locked. He reports again on Tuesday for another session where the device will come off.

Discreet public play is fun too. I've done that many times, especially in MindFucks. Dinner, strip club, shopping, party, etc.
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#2570 - 08/02/17 01:15 PM Re: Chastity and hormones [Re: Meredithsrogue]
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That's good to hear, rouge. I know you have a special relationship with you Mistress that probably helps fuel those feelings.
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#2571 - 08/03/17 12:06 AM Re: Chastity and hormones [Re: Mistress Ayn]
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Originally Posted By Mistress Ayn
I have not heard of them and am kind of glad I haven't. Bonafide nut jobs, but yes, it does sound like she would make a great key holder - albeit not a fun one.

Recently I started reading a book called "Vagina" that delves into the female orgasm, among other things.


Is this book the infamous one by Naomi Wolf???

https://www.wired.com/2012/09/naom-wolfs-vagina-the-perils-of-neuroself-help/

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2012/09/10/the-space-in-between

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#2573 - 08/03/17 10:16 AM Re: Chastity and hormones [Re: Mistress Ayn]
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That is the one. I was only able to slug through about one-third of it. I was unaware of the negative press. It has a ton of positive press. My hormone expert is reading it now and will provide Me with "cliff notes". It will be interesting what he has to say.
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#2584 - 08/07/17 06:14 AM Re: Chastity and hormones [Re: Mistress Ayn]
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I can't speak to the hormones but I can tell you my reaction to the end of 10 days of non-locked chastity (which is so much more difficult from a mental and discipline perspective) that included not just one but two different Dommes taunting me for hours at a time on multiple different days:


Free at last... Free at last... Thank Goddess Almighty* I am

FREE AT LAST!!!!!!


However, I believe that there is a lot of testosterone flowing as I spank it uncontrollably like a complete monkey-boy...

* - name has been changed to protect the totally deviant and evil

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